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  If god exists...

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  if god exists, wouldnt it make more sense for him to show himself today - now that we are a more enlightened people?

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  I understand the concept of worshiping a mass murderer is unreasonable but that is the unavoidable truth that believers follow is it not?
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  If god exists...

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  if god exists, wouldnt it make more sense for him to show himself today - now that we are a more enlightened people?

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  We are not perfect Entirely Possible but god is supposed to be right? If he had the power to make us perfect in mind body and understanding, then why doesn't he? Your avoiding the whole picture/question.
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  If god exists...

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  if god exists, wouldnt it make more sense for him to show himself today - now that we are a more enlightened people?

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  I had a hand in helping my kids come to be. If not for me, my kids would not exist. Now if my son at age 10 steals a toy from a friend, then that is on me if I did not teach him stealing was wrong. If at 16 he holds up a gas station at gun point then that is on me for not teaching him such things are bad. If at 21 he gets behind a car and kills a family because he was too drunk to see straight then that’s on me for not teaching him to be more responsible with alcohol.

  Any good parent will teach their kids right from wrong and teach them ESPECIALLY BY THEIR EXAMPLE. God does not do this. The bible may teach that stealing is wrong or murder is bad, but by god’s own EXAMPLE he has murdered millions of people. He does not practice what he teaches. Why should I ever listen to a hypocrite like this? There is no way that with an earth full of 20,000,000 or so people that only one family was good. The biggest genocide in history, biggest atrocity in history was at GOD’s hands. Again, why would I ever listen to a hypocrite like this? TEC - can you answer this for me? I would respectfully like to know what gives you faith that any of this makes sense.

  P.S. I in no way believe the “Flood of Noah’s day” ever occurred but millions upon millions do and I could not in good conscience worship a mass murderer like this.
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  If god exists...

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  Tootired2care- I earnestly tried this for 20+ years too and expirianced nothing.
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  If god exists...

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  Tec- He does... with those who would hear Him. He sent His Son. His Son speaks, guides, teaches... but in spirit now, whereas in the flesh when he walked in the flesh. I can't hear "in spirit". I hear my son when he laughs, my daughter when she crys and my wife when she tells me she loves me. An argument can easily be made that anyone who hears god may be crazy even if the voice you hear in your is justified as "in spirit". We listen with our ears, see with our eyes and taste with our toung. If god made us in his image he knows this. What an easy cop out to say "with those who would hear him." He would have to, especially with the prevalance of technology, know that we need undisputed proof. If he "made us in his image" then surely knows this and would adapt to the times as we do through the centuries.

  Cold Steel- Yep, you are missing something. First, the Lord will appear in our day, but just when remains a mystery. The scriptures speak of our day, with the apostle Paul saying that we, in our day, should ever be learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. I feel sad for you. How do you know that the scriptures "speak of our day"??? How do you know that the people 1000 years ago did't think the same thing. Im sure people 100 and 1000 years from now will think the same thing. I think your missing something.
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  If god exists...

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  Not everything skiforever, just this god thing. And this god thing is kinda big.

  lol honeybucket
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  Gene Roddenberry - "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes"
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  Maybe I attempt to insert logic where there is none?
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  Loz- It would 'inexcusable' for me to neglect my children since i had a hand in making them. It would be 'inexcusable' for me to allow my children to suffer if I could do something to prevent it, would it not? God's actions over the past 6000 years are inexcusable from my prospective. He deserves no respect from me if he can't or wont respect us as a human race right?